NebsyThread

theIllustriousDrGonzo wrote:

You son of a....

Serious Gonzo and Slacker Gonzo are two different Gonzos...Thank you very much.

NebulaJack wrote:

So, by "take a few ideas", do you mean your own that've been in yer head? Are yo6 looking for suggestions? If you got yo6r own notion and need a web desinger, graphic designer or a writer of site pages, let me know. I got some friends out here you could commission.

James.k.Polk wrote:

Sleverin wrote:

James.k.Polk wrote:For Patch.

You describe a problem that's all around us these days.  My company... They find reasons to charge back sales reps so commissions earned end up being zeroed out.  For managers they just make sure the goals are high enough that you can't commission at all.  Meanwhile I'm at the mercy of people with no sales experience to approve phone orders, accessories,  etc.  I'm accountable to them but they're not accountable to me.

Now I'm to run two stores.  No raise,  no thank you bonus.  Just "if both stores hit numbers you get two bonuses."  neither store hit last month,  so....

Normally I'm the type of guy who says that as a worker, you need to set out the goals to get the work done and then follow those until the work gets done properly and that people who bitch about doing the work aren't going to get anywhere by doing a half assed job.  Of course, that only applies to direct causal work relationships (ie, moving boxes from the warehouse to the truck).  You can't blame the manager for not having enough customers come in the door, especially when you do goalpost moving in accordance to goals.  That doesn't make any sense.  Doing good sales when people come in is one thing, telling them to "make" sales but only just enough so that they can't make any money is really batshit insane and one of the biggest reasons I could never go into sales.  There are a plethora of reasons I would be fired from any corporate office job, and getting in their face about how bullshit their system is would probably be the first (or second...I'd make an off color joke and get hit with HR bullshit first).  
Sorry they're doing this to you Polk.  I wish these people weren't such monsters when it came to work ethic, people like you deserve better.

Overall they're not a completely evil company to work for. It's just that Cell Phone Mining Corp Inc. the company whose services we peddle, has been offering "half price" plans to try to attract customers from other carriers.  While this has been moderately successful, it means that for every subscriber we sign up, there is less revenue to be shared among the carrier and the dealer.  Hence the commissions paid to sales representatives must, by necessity be adjusted downwards.

What has been bothering me is what I think have been unrealistically optimistic monthly sales targets coupled with a really shitty phone buyback process.  I have, or had, rather, a rep who was charged $300 of commissions because she bought back a couple of customer's phones that the processing company claims were damaged and not in buy-back condition.  No one can explain what was wrong with the phones she bought, no one will show us pictures of the damage.  It's just- "they were broken because we say they were broken..." and the person with the most to lose takes teh entire hit.

That representative has since quit her job. Now I needs train another.

Sleverin wrote:

James.k.Polk wrote:For Patch.

You describe a problem that's all around us these days.  My company... They find reasons to charge back sales reps so commissions earned end up being zeroed out.  For managers they just make sure the goals are high enough that you can't commission at all.  Meanwhile I'm at the mercy of people with no sales experience to approve phone orders, accessories,  etc.  I'm accountable to them but they're not accountable to me.

Now I'm to run two stores.  No raise,  no thank you bonus.  Just "if both stores hit numbers you get two bonuses."  neither store hit last month,  so....

Normally I'm the type of guy who says that as a worker, you need to set out the goals to get the work done and then follow those until the work gets done properly and that people who bitch about doing the work aren't going to get anywhere by doing a half assed job.  Of course, that only applies to direct causal work relationships (ie, moving boxes from the warehouse to the truck).  You can't blame the manager for not having enough customers come in the door, especially when you do goalpost moving in accordance to goals.  That doesn't make any sense.  Doing good sales when people come in is one thing, telling them to "make" sales but only just enough so that they can't make any money is really batshit insane and one of the biggest reasons I could never go into sales.  There are a plethora of reasons I would be fired from any corporate office job, and getting in their face about how bullshit their system is would probably be the first (or second...I'd make an off color joke and get hit with HR bullshit first).  
Sorry they're doing this to you Polk.  I wish these people weren't such monsters when it came to work ethic, people like you deserve better.

Sleverin wrote:

James.k.Polk wrote:For Patch.

You describe a problem that's all around us these days.  My company... They find reasons to charge back sales reps so commissions earned end up being zeroed out.  For managers they just make sure the goals are high enough that you can't commission at all.  Meanwhile I'm at the mercy of people with no sales experience to approve phone orders, accessories,  etc.  I'm accountable to them but they're not accountable to me.

Now I'm to run two stores.  No raise,  no thank you bonus.  Just "if both stores hit numbers you get two bonuses."  neither store hit last month,  so....

Normally I'm the type of guy who says that as a worker, you need to set out the goals to get the work done and then follow those until the work gets done properly and that people who bitch about doing the work aren't going to get anywhere by doing a half assed job.  Of course, that only applies to direct causal work relationships (ie, moving boxes from the warehouse to the truck).  You can't blame the manager for not having enough customers come in the door, especially when you do goalpost moving in accordance to goals.  That doesn't make any sense.  Doing good sales when people come in is one thing, telling them to "make" sales but only just enough so that they can't make any money is really batshit insane and one of the biggest reasons I could never go into sales.  There are a plethora of reasons I would be fired from any corporate office job, and getting in their face about how bullshit their system is would probably be the first (or second...I'd make an off color joke and get hit with HR bullshit first).  
Sorry they're doing this to you Polk.  I wish these people weren't such monsters when it came to work ethic, people like you deserve better.

James.k.Polk wrote:For Patch.

You describe a problem that's all around us these days.  My company... They find reasons to charge back sales reps so commissions earned end up being zeroed out.  For managers they just make sure the goals are high enough that you can't commission at all.  Meanwhile I'm at the mercy of people with no sales experience to approve phone orders, accessories,  etc.  I'm accountable to them but they're not accountable to me.

Now I'm to run two stores.  No raise,  no thank you bonus.  Just "if both stores hit numbers you get two bonuses."  neither store hit last month,  so....

NebulaJack wrote:

theIllustriousDrGonzo wrote:good morning. good morning. I have a birthday party for my 10 year old cousin today around four thirty. He likes Star Wars so I am buying him Marvel stuff, then heading out to see the Who at the KFC yum center. I might even drive by the St. Paddies day parade in the Highlands and slap some drunk college girl booty as I drive by. I have not decided yet....

Hm... weird. A dear friend's sister (who's also a great friend) has a daughter turning 8 today and I'm meant to attend the party after work.

theIllustriousDrGonzo wrote:good morning. good morning. I have a birthday party for my 10 year old cousin today around four thirty. He likes Star Wars so I am buying him Marvel stuff, then heading out to see the Who at the KFC yum center. I might even drive by the St. Paddies day parade in the Highlands and slap some drunk college girl booty as I drive by. I have not decided yet....

James.k.Polk wrote:Land of the Lost: Worst Episode Ever.

Chaka is bitten by a magic beetle that makes him evil.  He wrecks up the Marshall family's lair, leads Grumpy the tyrannosaur to attack the family, etc.

The fucking Sleestak talk.  Not just in the library of skull, all the damn time. And suddenly the Sleestak run like little girls.

bleargh.

rkwsuperstar wrote:

theIllustriousDrGonzo wrote:

Patch wrote:

theIllustriousDrGonzo wrote:

Fire someone and hire me.

Didn't I mention I'm tired of slackers

You son of a....

Serious Gonzo and Slacker Gonzo are two different Gonzos...Thank you very much.

Slacker Gonzo


Serious Gonzo

Patch wrote:Morning all. How's things?

I've been giving serious thought to starting a side business. Something to get excited about. My job has been great for years, but we have had a lot of changes lately.

We have people who work here and this is a job. They go home and forget all about this place. Quitting time is as regular as punching a clock. They have been here for a long time, so their salaries have climb to the highest rate. Meanwhile, I had 8 hours in before noon yesterday, worked until 12:30 am the day before that.

I'm a director so I have to answer for everything that goes on around here, but because of how we are set up, certain people don't report to me and are not under my supervision. When they don't do their jobs, I have to spend hours bailing them out. It's getting to be a weekly thing.

Add to that the high salaries for the "Job, not career" bunch, has drove our overhead through the roof. Rather than take a the tough road and possibly let go some of these overpaid slackers and replace them for half the cost, they are cutting techs in the field.  That's is where the money is made. It's making it hard to find people willing to go do the work. It's not like we are going to shut our doors over it. We are still profitable, it just less than it use to be because of the slackers.

So I'm going to take a few ideas, and see which have some legs. I get 3 weeks vacation a year and usually only take one. So I could take some time off to build a client base.

theIllustriousDrGonzo wrote:

Patch wrote:

theIllustriousDrGonzo wrote:

Fire someone and hire me.

Didn't I mention I'm tired of slackers

You son of a....

Serious Gonzo and Slacker Gonzo are two different Gonzos...Thank you very much.

Patch wrote:

rkwsuperstar wrote:

Good luck to you.

I might just treat it as a practice run. Get some things in place. Get a website, document processes and such. Doesn't hurt to have a plan B on stand by

Patch wrote:

theIllustriousDrGonzo wrote:

Fire someone and hire me.

Didn't I mention I'm tired of slackers

rkwsuperstar wrote:

Good luck to you.

theIllustriousDrGonzo wrote:

Fire someone and hire me.

Patch wrote:Morning all. How's things?

I've been giving serious thought to starting a side business. Something to get excited about. My job has been great for years, but we have had a lot of changes lately.

We have people who work here and this is a job. They go home and forget all about this place. Quitting time is as regular as punching a clock. They have been here for a long time, so their salaries have climb to the highest rate. Meanwhile, I had 8 hours in before noon yesterday, worked until 12:30 am the day before that.

I'm a director so I have to answer for everything that goes on around here, but because of how we are set up, certain people don't report to me and are not under my supervision. When they don't do their jobs, I have to spend hours bailing them out. It's getting to be a weekly thing.

Add to that the high salaries for the "Job, not career" bunch, has drove our overhead through the roof. Rather than take a the tough road and possibly let go some of these overpaid slackers and replace them for half the cost, they are cutting techs in the field.  That's is where the money is made. It's making it hard to find people willing to go do the work. It's not like we are going to shut our doors over it. We are still profitable, it just less than it use to be because of the slackers.

So I'm going to take a few ideas, and see which have some legs. I get 3 weeks vacation a year and usually only take one. So I could take some time off to build a client base.

Patch wrote:Morning all. How's things?

I've been giving serious thought to starting a side business. Something to get excited about. My job has been great for years, but we have had a lot of changes lately.

We have people who work here and this is a job. They go home and forget all about this place. Quitting time is as regular as punching a clock. They have been here for a long time, so their salaries have climb to the highest rate. Meanwhile, I had 8 hours in before noon yesterday, worked until 12:30 am the day before that.

I'm a director so I have to answer for everything that goes on around here, but because of how we are set up, certain people don't report to me and are not under my supervision. When they don't do their jobs, I have to spend hours bailing them out. It's getting to be a weekly thing.

Add to that the high salaries for the "Job, not career" bunch, has drove our overhead through the roof. Rather than take a the tough road and possibly let go some of these overpaid slackers and replace them for half the cost, they are cutting techs in the field.  That's is where the money is made. It's making it hard to find people willing to go do the work. It's not like we are going to shut our doors over it. We are still profitable, it just less than it use to be because of the slackers.

So I'm going to take a few ideas, and see which have some legs. I get 3 weeks vacation a year and usually only take one. So I could take some time off to build a client base.

James.k.Polk wrote:

kegs wrote:

James.k.Polk wrote:Nebsy suggested we create a new thread and the action on the last thread seems to be waning.

So here's the Nebsythread.

What kind of action are we looking for?

This works.